queerbychoice | Avatars and Dolls

silverchan directed me to a new doll maker and I made this:

This is actually an extremely good likeness of me. I've definitely owned clothes that looked virtually exactly like that, and my hairstyle is exactly like that (at least when I tie it back, which is slightly more often than not). Though like

silverchan, I did use an art program to adjust the hair color to be slightly more exact. And I adjusted the eye color too, because all these silly doll/avatar/illustration generator things have this frustrating idea that everybody's eyes fall into one of three neat little categories: blue, green, or brown. Mine are somewhere between blue and green and the pre-drawn eye selection never includes any that really resemble them.

The most disturbing thing about this doll maker is that with however many gazillion options for every single other conceivable thing on earth, I can't find a single option anywhere for changing skin color. Did I just overlook that somehow? Well, and there's also the fact that although I did find options for adding beards or facial stubble, I couldn't find any option for removing breasts.

Meanwhile,

rekraft directed me to the Yahoo avatar generator (or more accurately, I'd stumbled on it all by myself a while ago but

rekraft reminded me of its existence and spurred me to try to actually get something out of it). This one was much harder to coax into resembling me, because it has far fewer options, and I actually ended up drawing the glasses, much of the outfit, and much of the hair myself, just sort of taking the Yahoo avatar as a vague starting point.

I've seen several people complain that all the doll/avatar/illustration generator things tend to make everybody look ultra-ultra-skinny and not allow any way to adjust this. I'm having a sort of related problem with a lot of them: it's not that I'm not fairly skinny, but I am female, and this includes having a female bone structure, which is to say that I have hips. Why do the auto-generated figures so often have no hips at all? In the top picture here I didn't actually find this to be a problem at least after I picked out clothes, because the particular clothes I picked managed to sufficiently hide the lack of hips that the doll representation of me didn't end up looking especially wrong-shaped - although if I were a pants-wearing kind of person, the pants would have made the doll look too hipless to resemble me properly. But in the Yahoo avatar thing, no matter what clothes I picked, the woman simply has no hips at all. (I didn't adjust the hips in the picture above, so you can see how abnormally hipless she is. Female hips are usually at least as wide as breasts, often of similar width to shoulders. Hers are very much not, and if not for the blending of a tree branch on the left side of her with her hip, her body would look more instantly recognizably wrong-shaped than it already does.)

Then there's the ABI-Station full-body icon maker, in which the silly things all came out so hipless that I ended up using an art program to add about three pixels on each side of my hips before they actually looked big enough to me, on a body that's barely more than six pixels wide to begin with:

That's the adjusted version, with hips drawn in. See, they're not abnormally huge hips I'm asking for, either! But the silly icon generator things do not seem to comprehend the idea that females have hips. If it was just one or two of the icon generator things that did this, I would conclude that those particular icon generator things were just designed by artists who had an unusually weak grasp of female anatomy. But it's not just one or two of them. So I think they must do it because they think it looks better, because they think that the hot fashion trend is to not settle for merely starving oneself to extreme boniness but also surgically remove three inches of hip bone from each side of our pelvises. And I would just like to announce that this is very disturbing, so PLEASE GIVE MY HIPS BACK.

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these are fun! gracias!`

If you're like those icons, very pretty. I love the first and secnd one

so, uh, not much going on for you right now, eh?

I'm quite certain that top one is the skirt you gave me. And I'll bet that with the male avatar it wouldn't let me wear it, either.

Well, it doesn't seem to have a male avatar. It has only female bodies, but with the option that if you want to, you can give the women beards. Which would only make them look less like you, not more. But yes, that's exactly the skirt I was thinking of.

Oh, nothing ever happens in my life. Or on the rare occasions when anything does, it's always somehting that would be impolite to spread all over the internet.

There are photographs of me on my LJ icons page, even though I hardly ever actually use the icons in comments, and I've absolutely never used them in posts.

I like the second one!

My queendom for a plus-size-friendly picture generator with hips and everything...

There is a plus-size "dollz" one somewhere that

moominmuppet pointed out once. Let me see if I can find it . . . ooh! I don't think this is the same one, unless it's been substantially improved since the last time I looked at it, but anyway, it's better than what I saw before:

http://www.thecyberwarlock.com/dollz/base_bbw1.html

Hmm, wait ... I can't find how you actually put clothes on them with that side. I'll have to keep looking for the other one.

Here!!!

That's the one that

moominmuppet pointed out. There's only one position to put them in, and it's a way too excessively femme position for my taste, but the skinny "dollz" generators suffer from the same problem and other than that, this one's pretty good.

It's also hard to replicate my blondish-reddish-brownish hair, but that's a problem with others, too. I'll share results later!

Well, I was going to try to get to bed at a reasonable hour, but now I have avatars to make. ;)

Hehe! Well the big grin in this one is way better than anything on those avatars. *grin* Ack! It's contagious, too!

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