South Dakota Outlaws Abortions, Grants Hardly Any Exceptions

[queerbychoice]

What the fuck is this? I propose kicking South Dakota out of the United States. We won't miss them. Besides, they're not too far from Canada: maybe Canada will invade them and conquer them and impose gay marriages and abortion rights on them and thereby make them wish they'd just obeyed existing court decisions.

Thanks to queenofyerworld for the horrifying link.

Comments

[frankbook.livejournal.com]

"What the fuck?!" is right! That's bollocks. Seriously, I don't even know what to say to this. I never know what direction our country is headed. Just when it seems we might be headed down the liberal path, we make a sharp and sudden turn, and plunge into conservative hell.

abortion

[(Anonymous)]

why not just not have sex or use birth control not only will it prevent unwanted babies but desease control also

chris

Re: abortion

[queerbychoice.livejournal.com]

Sex is not always a choice. There is such a thing as rape, and even when the laws do make exceptions for rape victims, it's very hard for a victim to prove she was raped.

Abortion is an extremely painful surgical procedure. It is not something that any woman even remotely in her right mind would just prefer to go through rather than using birth control. If you were offered a choice between using a condom or having your dick cut open and surgical instruments shoved way up inside, I don't think you'd plan on choosing the surgery. The surgery is a last resort that women turn to when their birth control or their efforts to prevent guys from raping them have not worked.

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

From my own experience as a working class woman... I would still find a way to get a legal abortion elsewhere. It would just set me back a lot more financially than someone who could easily afford one in another state.

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

Nah, turn South Dakota back over to the Lakota.

[queerbychoice.livejournal.com]

Oh, there's an excellent idea. Okay! I'm starting an Eve L. Incarnata for President campaign now, and that can be one of your campaign platforms. I'd run for president myself, but giving South Dakota back to the Lakota was your idea before it was mine and besides, I don't qualify to run.

You're much cooler even than Kucinich. In fact, I can't think of a single issue I disagree with you on! I definitely think you should run.

[fflo.livejournal.com]

I would like to sign on for that campaign.

My family's from SD---mother from a little farm town in the southeast corner, father from Pine Ridge Res.---though he was white (his dad was principal of the schools there in the early 30's). When I grew up in Kansas we used to head up to SD for vacations, and it seemed like quite the place to me.

It actually has a solid base of populist, if not exactly progressive, political thinking, and of course there's the Native Am. population. So I'm with eve_l!

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

One of the dangers of growing old and having moved around a lot is that you end up with friends from all over the country. I used to live in Ohio, and vaguely remember Kucinich being mayor of Cleveland. A friend who lives in Cleveland was dishing Kucinich. Alas. There's not one candidate I could get behind in full good conscience. Except for me, and I am a woman of lose morals, so shant be running.

Have you been to the Black Hills? I have a friend in South Dakota that occasionally sends photos.

[fflo.livejournal.com]

Didn't Dennis pretty much single handedly keep Cleveland's utilities from going to private control? I remember hearing that's what cost him the office. Then, of course, here a few years ago when all of California was being gouged to death on power, Cleveland still had municipal control.

Yep---the Black Hills was the destination of choice. If you want to run away some time, let me know, and I'll meet you there. Or you could come as far as Michigan and we could go from here. Beautiful mountains, with dark pine trees that give it the name (they look black from a distance), and lots of birches here and there---plus crazy granite upcroppings and of course the insane Badlands nearby. There are also remnants of old motorist tourist culture, and I have a soft spot for that stuff.

Next time I go I'm going to make a point of visiting the reservation, see if anybody remembers my father and his parents. Long shot, I reckon, as they left in the early 40's, I think, but you never know.

[fflo.livejournal.com]

and, btw, why don't you qualify? convicted felon? iydmma

[queerbychoice.livejournal.com]

Haha. No, it's the under-35 thing. Eight years from now, I'm running! I'll be Eve_L's successor when her two terms are up.

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA! The US's first pansexual, polyamorous, fat, middle-aged, atheist woman president. In what universe?

I think you have a better chance of being elected, unless you are hiding some Deep Secrets.

[queerbychoice.livejournal.com]

Well, it's true that there aren't any secret scandals in my past that you don't already know about. Still, my being the U.S.'s first sapiosexual atheist woman president really doesn't seem at all likely either. And I have this very inconvenient habit of actually saying what I think, see, instead of just pandering to whatever the majority wants me to say. Hell, I probably couldn't even get the majority of the queer vote because most of them dislike me so much.

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

My dear woman. hahaha! There is a LOT of dirt that could be dredged up about me. I would not make a good candidate because of that. I would not deny any of this dirt, but Murkans tend to be a rather righteous lot. Some of that dirt I would not swear off.

In lieu of this, I must decline your nomination.

[donutgirl.livejournal.com]

what makes you think the Lakota would support abortion? (http://www.malakota.com/abortion.html)

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

What makes you think this one website speaks for all Lakota people?

[donutgirl.livejournal.com]

I don't. You still haven't answered my question.

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

So why did you post that link?

You still didn't apologize for the last row we got into. I don't owe you anything.

[donutgirl.livejournal.com]

I posted the link to show that not all Lakota are pro-choice. I don't know a whole lot about the Lakota, I don't know very many of them, and the ones I have had contact with have been fairly conservative on this issue.

I was interested in finding out if you had some information I didn't, that would make you believe most Lakota are staunchly pro-choice.

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

Well, if you ask like that...

I don't have any information about how Lakota people in general feel about abortion. From past experience, I do know that it's a mistake to assume that one person, or even a group of people speak for all people from a specific group.

My original comment was because I'm a staunch supporter of self-determination for indigenous peoples.

[tiny-and-green.livejournal.com]

I propose we go and execute some post-natal abortions, ey?

[cukoo4cocopuffs.livejournal.com]

I'll lead the invasion. I have "people" in Winnipeg!

I thought this was 2004. *sigh* going backwards not forwards.

[killerlidya.livejournal.com]

thanks for keeping us informed...
I always learn a lot from your journal.

[chiasmata]

Yeah, go for it. Kick them out.

How dare they?!

*grumbles incoherently*

[lesvraiparadis.livejournal.com]

No the plan is to sell excess states like South Dakota that really dont do anything and use the money to pay off the national debt. The people in those states who are worthy should be transplanted into states like Kansas where they wont even realize they have changed location.