I'm wondering where this is going... or what it stemmed from, I suppose..
I had to put "I don't know" for a couple of them, because while as a woman I might worry about rape drugs if I were in a shady establishment, I don't know if my worrying scenarios would go all the way to pregnancy.
It stems from a discussion with Mikie in which ey was arguing that a woman getting herself pregnant without her partner's persmission is not as bad as rape and I was arguing that it can be just as bad if the victim objects to it equally much.
I'm not sure that the questions above can entirely get at that, without some other comparative questions thrown in. Or maybe you were just curious about some related issues.
Anyways, I answered that "a partner gets themself pregnant with your sperm against your wishes" is less awful than "a partner gets you pregnant against your wishes" because while the consensuality aspect is equally bad, I think overall the potential consequences for getting pregnant are worse than those of getting someone pregnant. In the latter case, at the very least there are the risks of pregnancy, the risks of abortion and/or the challenges of raising an (unplanned) child, and the potential of a deceptive SOB suing for visitation rights. In the former case, you might be forced into some financial entanglements related to the child...and that's about it.
However, I answered that "a stranger slips rape drugs into your drink and gets you pregnant against your wishes" is less awful than "a stranger slips rape drugs into your drink and gets themself pregnant with your sperm against your wishes and copies down your name and address from your wallet to sue you for child support." I think this one would vary more from person to person, and my answer is probably influenced by a male worldview bias among other things. I could definitely see it being equally awful or the latter being more awful, but since the question asks for me personally: (1) rape occurred in both instances, equally awful (2) pregnancy against my wishes occured, somewhat more awful in the former case regardless of what options I choose from there on out (2b/3) long-term consequences/reminders of the rape, somewhat more awful in the latter case due to the addition that one would definitely be sued for child support - but this answer is with the caveat of understanding that abortion is available and safe in my area, and that the courts would not be stupid enough to grant (or even allow pursuit of) visitation rights for a male rapist, and as you said earlier that the courts would not side with a male rape victim except under the most extreme circumstances...all of which may at this point in history be tenuous arguments, granted.
We both recognized that the questions didn't entirely get at that. We just ran out of patience for revising the questions together any further.
And definitely my answers depend completely on the availability of abortion. If I had no access to it, which many people don't, I would find it far worse to be made pregnant.
If the rape resullts in pregnancy, the result (an unwanted child or abortion) would be the same as if some woman got herself pregnant against the will of the partner, but the victim is the one having to suffer through pregnancy and labor or an abortion. If someone got themselves pregnant by me against my wishes, at least all that would be going on in their body, not mine. And I like kids, so I wouldn't be so horribly upset at the prospect of there being one of mine running around, although I might be upset that I didn't have custody (supposedly if the person is suing for child support, though, I'd have a decent chance of getting some sort of partial custody as long as I wasn't some really creepy person - especially since obviously the kid's mother is a "slut" who sleeps with men in bars and the court system tends to frown on such activities in mothers). The main issue I'd have is that my child is the child of a rapist, an issue that I'd also have had if I'd been raped and impregnated and decided to carry to term.
However, in the case of consenting partners and getting pregnant against one's will, I think it would suck more to be the guy in that situation, because if I got pregnant from sex that was consensual, I'd probably want to keep the child. If I were the male part of that coupling, though, I would have a lot more choices over what happens to the fetus/child. If I were a man I'd only want to get someone pregnant if I trusted the person I was with (in fact I'd probably want to be married to them) and we'd had a long discussion about what would go on during pregnancy, etc.
And no, I don't really worry all that much about sex partners getting me pregnant against my will in general. I'm on the pill, so there's not much that my partner can sabotage that would get me pregnant. Though I do worry enough about strangers with date rape drugs that I said "yes" to the second-to-last question.
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I had to put "I don't know" for a couple of them, because while as a woman I might worry about rape drugs if I were in a shady establishment, I don't know if my worrying scenarios would go all the way to pregnancy.
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Anyways, I answered that "a partner gets themself pregnant with your sperm against your wishes" is less awful than "a partner gets you pregnant against your wishes" because while the consensuality aspect is equally bad, I think overall the potential consequences for getting pregnant are worse than those of getting someone pregnant. In the latter case, at the very least there are the risks of pregnancy, the risks of abortion and/or the challenges of raising an (unplanned) child, and the potential of a deceptive SOB suing for visitation rights. In the former case, you might be forced into some financial entanglements related to the child...and that's about it.
However, I answered that "a stranger slips rape drugs into your drink and gets you pregnant against your wishes" is less awful than "a stranger slips rape drugs into your drink and gets themself pregnant with your sperm against your wishes and copies down your name and address from your wallet to sue you for child support." I think this one would vary more from person to person, and my answer is probably influenced by a male worldview bias among other things. I could definitely see it being equally awful or the latter being more awful, but since the question asks for me personally: (1) rape occurred in both instances, equally awful (2) pregnancy against my wishes occured, somewhat more awful in the former case regardless of what options I choose from there on out (2b/3) long-term consequences/reminders of the rape, somewhat more awful in the latter case due to the addition that one would definitely be sued for child support - but this answer is with the caveat of understanding that abortion is available and safe in my area, and that the courts would not be stupid enough to grant (or even allow pursuit of) visitation rights for a male rapist, and as you said earlier that the courts would not side with a male rape victim except under the most extreme circumstances...all of which may at this point in history be tenuous arguments, granted.
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And definitely my answers depend completely on the availability of abortion. If I had no access to it, which many people don't, I would find it far worse to be made pregnant.
I agree with Mikie
However, in the case of consenting partners and getting pregnant against one's will, I think it would suck more to be the guy in that situation, because if I got pregnant from sex that was consensual, I'd probably want to keep the child. If I were the male part of that coupling, though, I would have a lot more choices over what happens to the fetus/child. If I were a man I'd only want to get someone pregnant if I trusted the person I was with (in fact I'd probably want to be married to them) and we'd had a long discussion about what would go on during pregnancy, etc.
And no, I don't really worry all that much about sex partners getting me pregnant against my will in general. I'm on the pill, so there's not much that my partner can sabotage that would get me pregnant. Though I do worry enough about strangers with date rape drugs that I said "yes" to the second-to-last question.